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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:58 pm

    I have a job.

    I use the money I get from it to buy the things I need.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:00 am

    Tobi wrote:I have a job.

    I use the money I get from it to buy the things I need.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Sagehawk on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:26 am

    shine i dont think tobi ment anything by his comments about it sounding manga like... I know what he means


    tobi... shine is right, Manga doesnt give transgendered issues justice... not even close...
    I mean can you imagine, just the simplest tasks like going in to a public restroom would be hard... its quite sad.


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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:28 am

    Good point, about the restrooms.....

    Anyway, I'm not sure if I should pity them, then get yelled at for looking down at them, or not pity them, and then get yelled at for being a heartless, uncaring monster.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Sagehawk on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:30 am

    Tobi wrote:Good point, about the restrooms.....

    Anyway, I'm not sure if I should pity them, then get yelled at for looking down at them, or not pity them, and then get yelled at for being a heartless, uncaring monster.
    neither, just understand, and spread awarness. for example.... if people make fun of trans people you could inform them of thier error and such... or if a friend comes out to you as being trans you can just be thier friend and support them. so really just be aware and a friend. you dont have to do much else.


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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:34 am

    I'm in the middle on this.

    1.I think lieing to everyone about what you are is kinda bad.
    2.Your born like this;it's not your fault.

    The way I stand now, I'm not gonna go to a meeting on helping them, but I'm not gonna send a burning bible.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:48 am

    Tobi wrote:I'm in the middle on this.

    1.I think lieing to everyone about what you are is kinda bad.
    2.Your born like this;it's not your fault.

    The way I stand now, I'm not gonna go to a meeting on helping them, but I'm not gonna send a burning bible.
    No one expects you to. Like she said, just treat 'em with the same respect as you would any other human being, show a little sympathy for the pains, a little encouragement, and proceed with life as normal.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:00 am

    I don't really respect most people anyway....
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:03 am

    Tobi wrote:I don't really respect most people anyway....
    Fix that. ^^
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:31 pm

    Why?

    Not to be like PP, most people are stupid.

    You know why?

    The higher your IQ, the less kids you have.

    Soon, there will be classes, one of smart people, one of lower people, with lows outnumbering highs 5 to 1.

    Uprising, smart people die, Earth is ruled by stupids, and then there will be no doctors, and they will die fro the flu.

    No one will live past 23, they will be more animal then men.

    Then, Vishnu's tenth avatar will come, killing all, and leaving Earth to the monkeys.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:43 pm

    Tobi wrote:The higher your IQ, the less kids you have.

    How anyone can make connection like that, I'll never know.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Sagehawk on Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:00 pm

    Shine wrote:
    Tobi wrote:The higher your IQ, the less kids you have.

    How anyone can make connection like that, I'll never know.
    Maybe because if your smart, you wont have kids! XD


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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:01 pm

    Sagehawk wrote:
    Shine wrote:
    Tobi wrote:The higher your IQ, the less kids you have.

    How anyone can make connection like that, I'll never know.
    Maybe because if your smart, you wont have kids! XD
    If you're smart, you WILL have kids so you can beat out all the retards that are poisoning the genepool.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Sasami on Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:42 pm

    Shine wrote:If you're smart, you WILL have kids so you can beat out all the retards that are poisoning the genepool.

    Actually, I disagree. That may not be necessarily true, as many past geniuses had no kids...If someone is extremely intelligent, they may put so much time in their work that they don't end up marrying/feel they have no time for kids.

    Maybe, anyways!

    I can't find any studies conducted by credible sources that say that OR otherwise.


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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:45 pm

    No, but i'm talking about stats.

    Low IQ family have an average of 5 kids.

    High IQ family's are 1.5 kids or less.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:45 pm

    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:If you're smart, you WILL have kids so you can beat out all the retards that are poisoning the genepool.

    Actually, I disagree. That may not be necessarily true, as many past geniuses had no kids...If someone is extremely intelligent, they may put so much time in their work that they don't end up marrying/feel they have no time for kids.

    Maybe, anyways!

    I can't find any studies conducted by credible sources that say that OR otherwise.
    It's an opinion. XD

    It'd be sad if someone with some decent genes doesn't take the time to pass them on. Without a legacy, their existence is pointless, if you ask me... Thankfully, just cause I'm gay, doesn't mean I can't donate sperm. Wink
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:47 pm

    Ya, but that redneck with the IQ of 70, has sex, and has a super hot kid with an IQ of...lets say 80.

    Then, someone who has an IQ of 100, sees her, and shes hot, and they hav a kid with an IQ of 90.

    Now, lets say their is 5 hot chicks with IQ's of 80.

    See how it happens?
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Sasami on Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:09 pm

    Shine wrote:
    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:If you're smart, you WILL have kids so you can beat out all the retards that are poisoning the genepool.

    Actually, I disagree. That may not be necessarily true, as many past geniuses had no kids...If someone is extremely intelligent, they may put so much time in their work that they don't end up marrying/feel they have no time for kids.

    Maybe, anyways!

    I can't find any studies conducted by credible sources that say that OR otherwise.
    It's an opinion. XD

    It'd be sad if someone with some decent genes doesn't take the time to pass them on. Without a legacy, their existence is pointless, if you ask me... Thankfully, just cause I'm gay, doesn't mean I can't donate sperm. Wink

    Some people (and these are, again, going to be smarter people in general) may be concerned about the population problems and could choose adoption instead...They're also more likely to use birth control.

    *shrug*

    I'm not saying it's right, or wrong, I just can understand what Tobi's getting at (although I'm not quite as pessimistic as him, haha).


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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:15 pm

    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:
    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:If you're smart, you WILL have kids so you can beat out all the retards that are poisoning the genepool.

    Actually, I disagree. That may not be necessarily true, as many past geniuses had no kids...If someone is extremely intelligent, they may put so much time in their work that they don't end up marrying/feel they have no time for kids.

    Maybe, anyways!

    I can't find any studies conducted by credible sources that say that OR otherwise.
    It's an opinion. XD

    It'd be sad if someone with some decent genes doesn't take the time to pass them on. Without a legacy, their existence is pointless, if you ask me... Thankfully, just cause I'm gay, doesn't mean I can't donate sperm. Wink

    Some people (and these are, again, going to be smarter people in general) may be concerned about the population problems and could choose adoption instead...They're also more likely to use birth control.

    *shrug*

    I'm not saying it's right, or wrong, I just can understand what Tobi's getting at (although I'm not quite as pessimistic as him, haha).
    I'm just sayin' that I personally believe that more intelligent people should be more inclined to have children for the sake of a generally more intelligent population.

    I can't say I'd cull the less adept population, but I'd certainly try to give some incentive to not breed as much, or to at least have them use proper protection... Obviously, though, that's not my decision. XD;

    Lord, I'm sounding like Pauper.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:20 pm

    Lulz, I had a 8th grade teach who had a great idea.

    If your grade average was under a C, your getten your tubes tied, or a vasectomy.

    She was funny.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Shine on Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:21 pm

    Tobi wrote:Lulz, I had a 8th grade teach who had a great idea.

    If your grade average was under a C, your getten your tubes tied, or a vasectomy.

    She was funny.
    That'd certainly keep you on your toes.
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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Sasami on Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:41 pm

    Shine wrote:
    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:
    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:If you're smart, you WILL have kids so you can beat out all the retards that are poisoning the genepool.

    Actually, I disagree. That may not be necessarily true, as many past geniuses had no kids...If someone is extremely intelligent, they may put so much time in their work that they don't end up marrying/feel they have no time for kids.

    Maybe, anyways!

    I can't find any studies conducted by credible sources that say that OR otherwise.
    It's an opinion. XD

    It'd be sad if someone with some decent genes doesn't take the time to pass them on. Without a legacy, their existence is pointless, if you ask me... Thankfully, just cause I'm gay, doesn't mean I can't donate sperm. Wink

    Some people (and these are, again, going to be smarter people in general) may be concerned about the population problems and could choose adoption instead...They're also more likely to use birth control.

    *shrug*

    I'm not saying it's right, or wrong, I just can understand what Tobi's getting at (although I'm not quite as pessimistic as him, haha).
    I'm just sayin' that I personally believe that more intelligent people should be more inclined to have children for the sake of a generally more intelligent population.

    I can't say I'd cull the less adept population, but I'd certainly try to give some incentive to not breed as much, or to at least have them use proper protection... Obviously, though, that's not my decision. XD;

    Lord, I'm sounding like Pauper.

    But they aren't, is what I'm saying. Maybe they SHOULD be, but that doesn't mean they are Wink. Which is also what Tobi is trying to say, I think.

    You've actually been sounding like Pauper a lot since he left XD.


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    Re: Luna by Julie Anne Peters

    Post by Tobi on Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:05 pm

    Which is a bad thing.

    You know, seeing as we're getting dumber, I think we might be de-evolving.

    Sad.

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