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    NU Metagame

    Post by Sasami on Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:51 pm

    Who here would be interesting in play-testing an NU metagame? We'd be starting a small challenge section, similar to the main Dojo Challenge. Matches can be on Shoddy Battle or WiFi, with WiFi being the first choice if possible (if you don't have/don't like Shoddy, you'll never be forced to play on there).

    The NU list would be the UU list, but with all popular Pokemon cut out (no Steelix, Weezing, Claydol, Scyther, Rotom, Altaria, etc.). From there, we'd play NU matches and figure out which Pokemon are over-centralizing/over-used. Those Pokemon would be banned and we'd keep playing until, well, we have a playable metagame :p. Standard clauses would be in effect, although we can certainly discuss them and decide if any should be discarded/added. Stealth Rock MAY end up being banned. That will be a discussion for another day.

    Sadly, to make this work, we really need a decent number of people. If I don't get enough replies, we can't really do this.


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:25 pm

    I'm all over this. Very Happy

    And I'm already putting my vote in to ban SR. Too many Bug types and Flying types will be in the end list, like Beedrill, Dustox, etc. Because of that, we may wanna take out Delibird, too. A Scarfed, Hustler Delibird could probably sweep half a team.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Prostiboots on Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:53 pm

    I could try, I suppose.

    But keep SR, since even without it, Bug/Flying pokeymanz aren't too popular.


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:33 pm

    Sagechild wrote:I could try, I suppose.

    But keep SR, since even without it, Bug/Flying pokeymanz aren't too popular.
    This is NU. Bug/Flying Pokemon will pretty much be all that's left by the time it's de-centralized. :\
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Zenith on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:53 pm

    SR should definitely be banned in NU. Other metagames? Not so much.


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Tobi on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:01 pm

    I wanna try this.

    Just tell me what pokemon to star using, then lets have a NU battle royal.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:03 pm

    Tobi wrote:I wanna try this.

    Just tell me what pokemon to star using, then lets have a NU battle royal.
    Right now, it's just the UU list with the popular Pokemon taken out.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Tobi on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:05 pm

    I can do this.

    Ok, i'll be ready soon guys.


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    Ariados
    Bastiodon
    Beautifly
    Beedrill
    Castform
    Corsola
    Delcatty
    Delibird
    Ditto
    Dustox
    Farfetch'd
    Furret
    Glalie
    Illumise
    Kricketune
    Ledian
    Lumineon
    Luvdisc
    Magcargo
    Mothim
    Pachirisu
    Parasect
    Pelipper
    Pidgeot
    Seaking
    Spinda
    Sunflora
    Unown
    Volbeat
    Wigglytuff
    Wormadon Grass, Ground, and Steel

    This is the list? If so, I will start soon.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:38 pm

    Tobi wrote:I can do this.

    Ok, i'll be ready soon guys.


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    Ariados
    Bastiodon
    Beautifly
    Beedrill
    Castform
    Corsola
    Delcatty
    Delibird
    Ditto
    Dustox
    Farfetch'd
    Furret
    Glalie
    Illumise
    Kricketune
    Ledian
    Lumineon
    Luvdisc
    Magcargo
    Mothim
    Pachirisu
    Parasect
    Pelipper
    Pidgeot
    Seaking
    Spinda
    Sunflora
    Unown
    Volbeat
    Wigglytuff
    Wormadon Grass, Ground, and Steel

    This is the list? If so, I will start soon.
    That's not the list, Tobi... XD;

    That was my PROPOSED list which ended up being too annoying to keep up with without playtesting. Sami's working on a list, so be patient. =P
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Sasami on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:44 pm

    Here's the list, guys:

    Noctowl
    Sableye
    Shuckle
    Skuntank
    Pikachu
    Shiftry
    Octillery
    Linoone
    Camerupt
    Parasect
    Seviper
    Bibarel
    Mr. Mime
    Dodrio
    Raichu
    Butterfree
    Chimecho
    Cradily
    Phione
    Furret
    Ariados
    Xatu
    Lunatone
    Granbull
    Volbeat
    Bastiodon
    Wailord
    Purugly
    Solrock
    Torkoal
    Bellossom
    Crawdaunt
    Minun
    Raticate
    Pelipper
    Carnivine
    Magcargo
    Wigglytuff
    Dunsparce
    Girafarig
    Castform
    Beedrill
    Arbok
    Kecleon
    Stantler
    Pachirisu
    Dustox
    Politoed
    Golem
    Walrein
    Mightyena
    Exploud
    Luvdisc
    Chatot
    Sudowoodo
    Huntail
    Lumineon
    Dewgong
    Pidgeot
    Masquerain
    Ledian
    Vespiquen
    Tropius
    Illumise
    Whiscash
    Seaking
    Plusle
    Mothim
    Delibird
    Swalot
    Clamperl
    Glalie
    Spinda
    Wormadam-S
    Sunflora
    Fearow
    Trapinch
    Vigoroth
    Cherrim
    Wormadam
    Delcatty
    Kricketune
    Farfetch'd
    Corsola
    Wormadam-G
    Ditto
    Beautifly
    Unown

    Although the actual challenge won't be ready until later this week, feel free to have some casual NU matches (it'll help a lot). All I ask is that you PLEASE record each match, saying which Pokemon were used on both sides and any trends you noticed =). This will come into play later. If you use Shoddy, save all logs. Thanks!


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Zenith on Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:04 pm

    I can't wait to abuse some of these >:3


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Prostiboots on Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:34 pm

    Dr. Lord Ryu wrote:I can't wait to abuse some of these >Very Happy


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:57 pm

    Wow, all the Pokemon I had on my team from that PokeWiFi NU tourney are legal. I s'pose I'll go ahead and try that first. Errr, basically, I can start immediately. XD

    Too bad that Whiscash didn't go quite as well as I'd hoped it would.


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Zeph on Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:01 pm

    Sign me up.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:10 pm

    I think this list is lacking Mawile, btw.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Sasami on Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:06 am

    Shine wrote:I think this list is lacking Mawile, btw.

    Apparently it's used a lot. And I have to agree, I see it used in UU as a Baton Passer.


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shadows on Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:14 pm

    I'll take part in some NU games, seems a good idea.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:24 pm

    Sasami wrote:
    Shine wrote:I think this list is lacking Mawile, btw.

    Apparently it's used a lot. And I have to agree, I see it used in UU as a Baton Passer.
    REALLY? o_O;

    That's odd. I've NEVER seen anyone use a Mawile besides myself...
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Tobi on Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:45 pm

    My new team.

    Shuckle
    Camerupt
    Seviper
    Bastiodon
    Carnivine
    Seaking- FUCK YA!
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Zeph on Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:58 pm

    I'm thinking Shuckle will be banned soon anyway, matters after playtesting.
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Tobi on Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:16 pm

    bUT..BUT...I'VE ALREADY MADE ONE!

    it"s super fucking made of win!!
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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Sasami on Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:22 pm

    Shade wrote:I'm thinking Shuckle will be banned soon anyway, matters after playtesting.

    We'll see. Remember, no auto-sandstorm and lots of poison types will be around...


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Shine on Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:06 pm

    Also, I'll have you know that there is ONE spinner on this list, and Delibird is 4x weak against it... >>;

    Also, as many Poison types as there may be for Toxic immunity, I don't think anything but a Specs Octillery or something could scrape Shuckle. Any other damage I'm fairly certain it could just rest off, including Toxic.


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Prostiboots on Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:07 pm

    Lioone tiemz.

    <3


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    Re: NU Metagame

    Post by Sasami on Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:10 pm

    Shine wrote:Also, I'll have you know that there is ONE spinner on this list, and Delibird is 4x weak against it... >>;

    Also, as many Poison types as there may be for Toxic immunity, I don't think anything but a Specs Octillery or something could scrape Shuckle. Any other damage I'm fairly certain it could just rest off, including Toxic.

    You'll have me know? I DO know, I made the list XD;;.

    Also...

    Torkoal.

    :p Just saying.

    As for Shuckle, I won't be drawing any conclusions until I see him in action. Who knows.


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